There won't be any professions if people lived forever. If you don't have to save for retirement then there's no rush to make as much money as possible to create a nest egg for retirement. If there's no rush to make as much money as possible before retirement then you have a lot more free time on your hand - an eternity. If you have a lot more free time on hand then you can take your time and learn to do anything you want to do so you can do it yourself. There's no rush to do most things because life is very, very, very long, so it will get very, very, very slow-paced to point of being torturously boring.
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Professions in the Paradise
by The Real Edward Gentry inwe know there will be no money in paradise.
but there will almost certainly be jobs to do.
we will be perfect at our jobs but that doesn't mean we will be perfect at every job.
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Isiah 65:17 (Memory wipe?)
by pleaseresearch in“for behold, i create new heavens and a new earth, and the former things shall not be remembered or come into mind.. i need some help with this please guys and gals.
what is this implying?
god will wipe those past memories, the past system of things from our minds?
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Island Man
Reminds me of a joke:
Snarky JW 1: "Bro. Mischief, we will really miss you when we get into the new system" (Implying Bro. Mischief won't make it. lol.)
Bro. Mischief: "I wish I could say the same about you. From my position in heaven I bet I'll get to see you every day."
Snarky Elder JW: "Snarky JW 1, how can you say such a thing? . . . Everyone knows that in the new system the former things will not be called to mind - You can't miss someone you won't remember."
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Isiah 65:17 (Memory wipe?)
by pleaseresearch in“for behold, i create new heavens and a new earth, and the former things shall not be remembered or come into mind.. i need some help with this please guys and gals.
what is this implying?
god will wipe those past memories, the past system of things from our minds?
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Island Man
"things are so good we no longer dwell on the past pains."
They must be recalled with a certain measure of displeasure or loathing in order for the lesson of the failure of human rule directed by Satan, to have any real staying power in the hearts of all intelligent creatures.
To illustrate my point, think of the difference between intellectually knowing that hurricanes cause death and destruction, without the pain of experiencing it yourself; and actually experiencing it yourself. Many people in the former position, say they would like to experience a hurricane. But none - or very few - in the latter position would say so. The difference - having painful memories associated with hurricanes.
So if people in the "new world" do not remember the trials of the old world with some measure of pain, it would be easy for them to go back to rebelling.
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Can someone tell me why Joan's ark and the flood not true and impossible?
by Gokumonkey inhey everyone.
i have a question and i hope i'm not confusing this with something else i heard.
while watching ex jw videos on youtube many of them talk about how noah's ark and the flood didn't happen and it's impossible.
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Island Man
A global flood 5000 years ago would have left very striking tell-tale signs in Earth's geology - worldwide! - yet no such ubiquitous geological evidence can be seen.
However, there is evidence that there was a major (mega) tsunami in the Mediterranean region in late prehistoric times. This event could be the very small kernel of truth that inspired the global flood legends that pervade the area.
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If we just suddenly start talking to DFed people again and use the Canada court video as our argument, what would happen?
by Isambard Crater inthe jw lawyer clearly stated that disfellowshipping only applies to spiritual association, but everyday family contact is ok..
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Island Man
JW elder: "Where did you get that video, Isambard? Have you been visiting apostate sites? How do you even know that video is legitimate? We get our direction from Jehovah's Organization - not from apostate sites or lawyers. What Bible based direction has the Faithful and Discreet Slave given pertaining to the treatment of disfellowshipped ones? Why would you choose to ignore their direction in favor of what is said on a video of questionable origin and legitimacy? Isambard, you need to readjust your thinking. Right now you're treading on dangerous ground."
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Jesus and Satan’s Hilly hike
by EverApostate ini got an inspiration to create this topic as a subset of another topic.
satan in heaven.. as per the bible,the devil took jesus to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their splendor.
below is a reference from another critic.
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Island Man
The Earth is supported against the gravity of the Sun, and not falling into it,
Forgive my pedantry, but actually, the Earth is falling toward the sun. It wouldn't be orbiting the Sun if it wasn't. Orbit is achieved when the speed of horizontal movement parallel to the surface of the star or planet you're orbiting is such that the rate at which you're falling toward the planet or star equals the rate at which the surface of the planet of star is curving down away from you.
Centrifugal force does not apply to orbiting because the orbiting body isn't fixed to the object it's orbiting. If you speed up the forward speed of the earth it will just orbit further away from the sun or leave orbit altogether.
And the Bible's statement that the Earth is hanging on nothing is totally wrong because the Earth isn't hanging at all. The earth is hurtling through space in a corkscrew motion. It is orbiting around the sun and the sun in turn is orbiting the galaxy in a plane that is perpendicular to the earth's plane of orbit around the sun. When you combine the two motions the earth is making a corkscrew path through space.
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not a new topic - really a pet peave
by Moster inmakes me crazy:.
there: go over there!.
their: they own it; belonging to etc.. for the love of pete - use them correctly!.
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Island Man
'phoned in over the years to point out it "should have been called Pedant's Corner "
Actually is should be Pedants' Corner (apostrophe after the s)
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Biblical incidents that bothered me.
by EverApostate ini wanted to discuss the (supposed) biblical events that disturbed me a lot when i was a jw.
these incidents were just read and discussed in the kingdom hall as if these are normal and justified, which clearly weren't.
perhaps this led to my awakening.
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Island Man
Others that bothered me:
The armies that were incinerated by fire when they came to Elijah pleading with him to come with them to meet with the king.
The many bystanders that were struck dead because they happened to see the ark of the covenant on its return journey while they were celebrating its return from the enemy.
The prophet who was deceived into eating and drinking and was killed by a lion for doing so.
God allowing the Israelites to attack Ai and suffer loss of life before telling them that he was not backing them because someone (Achan) stole.
What a heartless god! No wonder the pharisees were the way they were. They learned their heartless legalism from the OT. Reasonable, Jesus-like characters who bended the rules for the sake of compassion and reasonableness were killed without mercy in the OT.
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Hoping I can stay
by allyson ini started studying with witnesses about 21 months ago.
started going to meetings in march 2017, went to the memorial and attended my first convention.
i love it.
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Island Man
They can't stop you attending by meetings as infinitum as a non baptised person.
Actually, they can. They can tell her that her implied invitation has been revoked and future visits to the kingdom hall will be treated as trespassing.
They typically do this when apostates come around and start asking difficult questions or start sharing TTATT.
Given JWs' strong bigotry against gays and transsexuals it's not too much of a stretch to think that they might do this to her if they sense she's intent on remaining a trans woman and is of the adamant view that Jehovah accepts her as such. They might consider her presence at the kingdom hall, dressed as a woman, as "upsetting to others" and a "spiritual danger" to the congregation. I think there's at least a 50% chance of this happening.
Keep this in mind: the very act of a biological man dressing as a woman is deemed by them as a serious sin worthy of disfellowshipping. So every time Allyson comes to the meetings dressed as a woman, the JWs - from their perspective - are witnessing a serious, gross sin taking place in their kingdom hall right before their eyes! From a strictly pseudo-logical, scriptural perspective it is comparable to a person coming to the meeting and publicly committing fornication at the kingdom hall in the presence of everyone.
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Can you be disfellowshiped for reading other religious materials?
by paradisebeauty ini am having a conversation with a jw and they say you can not be disfellowshiped for this.
is this true?
i thought you can be disfellowshiped for this.
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Island Man
It is very strongly frowned upon. You would not be regarded as being exemplary. You will definitely be counseled for it. Your response to the counsel could determine whether or not a judicial committee needs to be formed to explore the charge of apostasy or interfaith. In and of itself it's probably not enough to get your DF'd, but your attitude toward it - if you agree with what the other religion is teaching and/or if you're sharing those ideas with others - can get you disfellowshipped.